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Post by TheWG on Feb 3, 2015 18:17:55 GMT -5
Caylis kahara drifter LAD katluver458 Hawkpath Jason(Carnage also has a character, I don't know who they are on here but could someone beep them about this too? Also if I missed anybody tell me) Ok so, I feel like a discussion needs to happen- outside of roleplay- about what's going on with the Rose, Katil, Asesinato, Annemarie, and children after the Shade incident. This'll be a thread for questions too, since the whole thing may have been confusing since the roleplays were long- then dropped in activity completely before they could be finished. And instead of going back to them to try and kick a dead horse, I'll just nudge everyone here to see if we can figure out where to go next. Leading up to Now: The coven is pissed at Shade for killing Kodlak. Shade is very convinced that he is no longer safe around his family. Shade has gone MIA and essentially left Xena in charge of protecting her mother and siblings from harm by taking them somewhere safer. (I'm pretty sure Whitesnow said somewhere that Hanare would have asked them to leave her lands anyway, now that they brought potential threat / death). Also, Caelum was killed by a coven member, furthering their need to go elsewhere. :'c Where to Go From Here: I know a few of you may want to split your characters off from this and THAT IS FINE. It's completely up to you whether you want to keep your character with the family as one traveling party or go off to find their own way. Just inform me. As for Rose, Xena, Katil, and her current litter (which are older cubs by now?), they will most likely be travelling to some pride, which has yet to be decided (Whitesnow?). The rest (Asesinato, Annemarie, Kitayi, and those in Rose's first litter), can decide whether they want to join or leave altogether. One thing I know I do want, is to center them all here if they do end up staying together. Mostly because I'm not active with Itera anymore and any activity is better kept here.
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Post by Caylis on Feb 3, 2015 18:29:04 GMT -5
I believe this is very important. They could head to Gespenster. I was thinking of having a Hallow get involved in this as well, because I really want to develop them more. I wanna push my Icondoit (from Gespenster) into this plot but he'll end up being a nomadic ally. I would've originally said they would head back to Meurtrier, but now that they left, I don't think they'd be welcome back.
WG, I think that perhaps they could build a pride simply for the resistance? I remember we once discussed making a pride with Shade and Rose as leaders?
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Post by drifter on Feb 3, 2015 19:07:08 GMT -5
If Shade caught wind of Zalui branching off the Meur pride he could try to convince the family to go there. If Shade knows T.O it's that he won't just up and attack a large pride like Meurtrier. Which of course at this point T.O has no idea what Meurtrier is or that Xemvoi mutts are there. And T.O may be out of his mind somewhat but he's not foolish enough to send his family to their deaths.
So joining Zalui is an option. Though Zal may need some convincing. Since of course his whole goal was to leave the Shadowed world forever. It could potentially lead his own family into danger.
Gespenster is also an option. The Savannahs are a pretty hefty distance from Sanguis.
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Post by TheWG on Feb 3, 2015 21:34:45 GMT -5
Meurtrier was a large choice by far, and something I really wanted actually. I even planned for Shade or Xena to contact Circa to try to get her to talk with the leaders to let them have refuge, but I wasn't sure how enthusiastic they'd be about it. Maybe Xena could contact Zalui AND Circa, since they're the ones Shade would want her to go to for protection? drifterIf not, they would surely turn to Gespenster, it's a quiet place. Caylis Building their own pride would be a no-no, because that would only attract more attention to his family and that is the sole reason Shade has left them altogether. The coven never got a glimpse of his family besides Caelum, Deadpool/Darthia(?), and maybe Xena if only for a moment? So it would be best that, at least in these times of high risk, Shade keeps a distance from them and only contacts through Xena.
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Post by drifter on Feb 3, 2015 23:19:55 GMT -5
The thing with Xena contacting Zal is that he has no idea who she is... But then again I guess that would make it more interesting. He was aware Shade was starting a family with Rose but that was the last he saw of him when they left Meur and I don't think those cubs were born yet then were they?
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Post by LAD on Feb 4, 2015 0:07:52 GMT -5
This thread = awesome and necessary I'm glad we're getting this done. (Carnage also has a character, I don't know who they are on here but could someone beep them about this too? Also if I missed anybody tell me) Carnage is not on Meur forums. He's a new father as well, and hasn't been online since July. Where to Go From Here: I know a few of you may want to split your characters off from this and THAT IS FINE. It's completely up to you whether you want to keep your character with the family as one traveling party or go off to find their own way. Just inform me. As for Rose, Xena, Katil, and her current litter (which are older cubs by now?), they will most likely be travelling to some pride, which has yet to be decided (Whitesnow?). The rest (Asesinato, Annemarie, Kitayi, and those in Rose's first litter), can decide whether they want to join or leave altogether. One thing I know I do want, is to center them all here if they do end up staying together. Mostly because I'm not active with Itera anymore and any activity is better kept here. I don't believe I have anyone other than Jade completely involved in within the set characters mentioned here truth be told. His parents are Rose and Shade and if I recall correctly, he's within their second litter - so it all depends on his age in the end, but more than likely he'll stay with his mother and follow her where ever, of that I'm certain. I believe this is very important. They could head to Gespenster. I was thinking of having a Hallow get involved in this as well, because I really want to develop them more. I wanna push my Icondoit (from Gespenster) into this plot but he'll end up being a nomadic ally. If not, they would surely turn to Gespenster, it's a quiet place. Nooot so sure how I feel about this - and this is not because I don't like the idea but because of my more logical side of if that makes sense. Unless they're traveling from Itera lands to Novis (and even then) I don't quite see how they'd cross the whole of Savannah along with like, several other lands to reach Gespenster for the sole purposes of asking for refuge - from a pride they've never really interacted with before and have no ties to besides Icondoit. And even that is semi-stretching because I'm not sure if they've had previous connections with the Shakes x Viciado child before? Would the family even know him? Even more so, would they even know he resides in Gespenster for them to make such a leap and put their trust in complete strangers for protection? All thoughts considering, the same that Hanare did (Implied at least) of asking them to leave because they've brought threat to the pride, could be quite possible with Gesp. I would've originally said they would head back to Meurtrier, but now that they left, I don't think they'd be welcome back. Meurtrier was a large choice by far, and something I really wanted actually. I even planned for Shade or Xena to contact Circa to try to get her to talk with the leaders to let them have refuge, but I wasn't sure how enthusiastic they'd be about it. Maybe Xena could contact Zalui AND Circa, since they're the ones Shade would want her to go to for protection? drifterMeurtrier has new leaders - leaders that weren't around when Rose and that lot left. Simply because they left once, doesn't mean they would not be welcomed back again ♥ just sayin'. Orpheus and Daemon are not closed off to talks. They don't have alliances, no, but there is nothing that says they won't help out if something is brought to light. I don't want people to think Meurtrier won't be open to things because of new circumstances - communication is key lovelies. The main reason this is different from Gespenster is because they've already once previously known Meurtrier, to turn to them for help isn't so out of the box. I adore the idea of Xena contacting Meurtrier in their stead, just sayin. WG, I think that perhaps they could build a pride simply for the resistance? I remember we once discussed making a pride with Shade and Rose as leaders? I'd support that, but: Caylis Building their own pride would be a no-no, because that would only attract more attention to his family and that is the sole reason Shade has left them altogether. The coven never got a glimpse of his family besides Caelum, Deadpool/Darthia(?), and maybe Xena if only for a moment? So it would be best that, at least in these times of high risk, Shade keeps a distance from them and only contacts through Xena. And that's really something to keep in mind. ♥ The thing with Xena contacting Zal is that he has no idea who she is... But then again I guess that would make it more interesting. He was aware Shade was starting a family with Rose but that was the last he saw of him when they left Meur and I don't think those cubs were born yet then were they? To my knowledge, Rose left Meurtrier before having the cubs - and also because it was almost kinda during the midst of the war and she didn't like that. If my memories serve correctly at least, and it was a long weary travel to Itera lands from Novis while they did it - and she had the cubs on Itera. That's kinda where my memories stops because I was never quite involved with Hanare's pride (I'm sorry White!) so my knowledge in this history is fuzzy, but they had no contact outside of Aodha Ild and Malice Clan. Not really at least. Annd then.. TheWG, up to you if you wanna bring up what we talked about. Keeping it very vague in case we wanna keep this secret. /promptly shot several times for raising curiosity.
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Post by TheWG on Feb 4, 2015 9:21:33 GMT -5
Holy hell Lad LOL, let me get a moment to gather up a response
Actually, the litter WAS born a little before they left Meurtrier I think, Xena and her siblings and Katil's brood. They left after the cubs were old enough to make the journey? I thought, I might have to dig up the thread again just to see, but at the same time they were cubs- and Zalui wouldn't have seen much of them anyway before they left, so either way. Xena seems like a better idea and I'll highlight that in one of the next two paragraphs
Well it wasn't exactly me thinking on how logical it would be that they traveled there, it was mostly a "where can I stick them to be safe" kind of thing, but you have a good point, I should have thought more about that. It would have mostly been chosen because Shade would have scoped it out beforehand, and would have seen that it's place far from Sanguis would be prime if Meurtrier would for some reason not take them. If they did join, it would be likely that it would be so far away that Shade would feel more comfortable about just joining casually, but you're right, it's a mega-stretch.
Bottom line, if- FOR SOME REASON- things don't work out with coming back to Meur- then we'll regroup here and talk about where they should go next. Although I have high hopes for them joining Meur or Zalui's branch of it. Although, probably out of respect for Zalui and Circa mostly, Shade probably wouldn't join with them. He knows not only HIS family would be targeted if they were seen with him (and figured out in general), but so would Zalui and his family as well (especially if they were known to be helping him out). Which would be the MAIN reason Xena would speak to them instead, not himself.
-paps LAD with a newspaper- shhhhhhh
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Post by TheWG on Feb 4, 2015 9:54:28 GMT -5
Post done c:
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Post by Jason on Feb 5, 2015 21:30:26 GMT -5
Not really too involved at this point since Thaddeus left family because they are too nice for his tastes. But the cubs WERE INDEED born here. I remember because this was before Dante became a horrible shithead but was still a bit of a shit and wanted to see his nieces and nephews. 8| *smacks Dante around a few times* They could spend some time with Dante... Since half brother and he doesn't hate them. He's just crazy and harbors the evil children and is a bad influence and is not recommended... But he is magic and does magical hiding things. He would likely eventually point them in a different direction, though, given that he would not want to support them indefinitely unless they join, which I doubt would happen. *makes no sense in her little corner* On another note, Darker find the whole situation darkly humorous.
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Post by LAD on Feb 6, 2015 6:22:57 GMT -5
For once, Alice, you make perfect sense.
As for the cubs thing, then that must have been for Jade's litter - I know they were born on Itera and Rose traveled while pregnant And I just got it mixed up. Been tired lately
Anyways, as for Dante and all, that's up to WG and Caylis, just as Gesp is ultimately up to them - just don't know if they'd even know where to find him these days for it to be a possibility. And yeah, I know Jade definitely prob wouldn't join, he was brought up as a mama's boy.
And WG I promise I've read your post, but I can't reply to it atm. It's six am and I just woke up with less than five hours of slee. x.x
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Post by Jason on Feb 6, 2015 7:42:50 GMT -5
For once, Alice, you make perfect sense. Thanks.
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